Curse

DarkNecrid · Aug 08, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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Originally Posted by Faer

You are terrible.

In fact, Evisc/DSlash Warriors not only out-DPS Ursan and have knockdown of their own, they also have the option of packing multiple utility skills including, but not limited to, the functionalities of interrupting and party-wide support, and can use all these other utility skills without having to drop a form and therefore kill their DPS.

But never fear. Your ignorance has been pardoned. It's not your fault you are bad, it's ArenaNet's for handing out gummy bears with the release of their latest pet project. Sugar tends to confuse people in large amounts and has a detrimental effect on the human brain's ability to properly function.

wut??

nub lern 2 ply there aint no rom on my skill br 4 any sdtoppid piece of shite skil it ownz cuswe i got cleave asnd heal signet and mendng alng with signt of streangth n do a yak signt omgz you frakin nuyb lern 2 ply jess fhrist

But yea, if you're playing a DSlash War or an Evis War and you don't have a Knockdown or any utility, you are baed.

Dev121 · Aug 08, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Good update, not perfect but good. Was not on a scale a monster update however and I do think the community teams need to watch what they say otherwise you have guru spam fests with people waiting watching every second go by in suspense for the update.
I did like the Elite changes thou, a few I know were kind of crap such as one of the Necro MM elites but they had to mess something up.

JupiterStarWarrior · Aug 08, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by EmptySkull

Hey if you think [ebon vanguard assassin support] is good with arcane echo. How about trying [arcane echo]+[echo]+[ebon vanguard assassin support] Kill the boss quick and you can have 6 running around.

I already know about that. Thing is, I'm using Signet of Illusions in my build, and so can't use Echo. (Signet of Illusions is so I can use whatever other spell I want without wasting much in the other attributes).

JupiterStarWarrior · Aug 08, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

Evis War

Dear, God.... I read that as "Elvis War".

Teh [prefession]-zorz · Aug 08, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

So why didnt they change DW for the deep wound to be on the top...

bryann380 · Aug 08, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Here are a few things that should have been included with the updates, in my opinion...

A full party is now required to enter any explorable area. If there are at least two players in the party and one leaves the game, the leaving player is replaced with a henchman of the same primary profession. The only exceptions to this change is Pre-Searing Ascalon, the tutorial areas of Factions & Nightfall and any quest or mission where you must be the only one in the party.
Damage that monsters receive is reduced, depending on where they are. All dungeons, -15%. All elite areas, -33%. Anywhere else while in Hard Mode, -50% and players receive +25% damage from all sources.
Shadow Form: disabled for 30 seconds. Type has been changed from Spell to Skill, unaffected by morale boosts and skills that can instantly recharge other skills.
Ursan Blessing, Raven Blessing, Volfen Blessing: disabled for 60 seconds; unaffected by morale boosts and skills that can instantly recharge other skills.

The reasoning for my suggestions is simple. I strongly doubt the devs intended on any area to be cleared by solo or 2-3 person teams. Change #1 will make sure that the proper party size designed for that given area is used. I see people talking about how easy dungeons and even HM are so change #2 makes monsters harder to kill and you take more damage if in HM. With the skill changes, they cannot be constantly maintained or recharged faster/instantly.

Jetdoc · Aug 08, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by Faer

Are you suggesting people run something inferior to Evisc or DSlash with these comments? You are stricken from the guest list, sir.

C'mon...that will force them to go from pressing 1-2-3 to pressing 1-2-3-4. I'm not sure if the community is ready for that...

P.S. Dragon Slash with the latest Save Yourself is simply on crack. Adrenaline management isn't even a worry any longer.

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Originally Posted by bryann380

Here are a few things that should have been included with the updates, in my opinion...

A full party is now required to enter any explorable area. If there are at least two players in the party and one leaves the game, the leaving player is replaced with a henchman of the same primary profession. The only exceptions to this change is Pre-Searing Ascalon, the tutorial areas of Factions & Nightfall and any quest or mission where you must be the only one in the party.

The reasoning for my suggestions is simple. I strongly doubt the devs intended on any area to be cleared by solo or 2-3 person teams. Change #1 will make sure that the proper party size designed for that given area is used.

I seriously laughed out loud at this suggestion. Mandating full sized parties to kill solo farming is simply absurd and would single-handedly cause a large portion of the playerbase to disappear overnight.

Age · Aug 08, 2008, 08:44 PM // 20:44

I have done some testing and I am not really impressed with the Monk changes Aura of Faith.Why couldn't they have buffed Life Sheath as a lot have asked for?

N1ghtstalker · Aug 08, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

new update
notes released yet?

Martin Firestorm · Aug 08, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

You will not be able to prove how these skills make the game "better" because you'll have a hard time defending cheat codes.

Dude, you have tons of posts in this one thread basically saying this same thing. Better is all about perceptions, inherently subjective and not provable either way. Go have some fun.

DarkNecrid · Aug 08, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51

They fixed the Xinrae's Weapon bug, you would crash everyone on the map if you walked into Coral on jade isle/ra map, or if you walked into an acid trap while it was on you.

Shadow Kurd · Aug 08, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Yay!! Great update, i really like the Para and Ranger buffs.

Good JOB Linsey and Regina *clap clap clap*

Enko · Aug 08, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd

Yay!! Great update, i really like the Para and Ranger buffs.

Good JOB Linsey and Regina *clap clap clap*

why regina? she isn't involved with updates. she's the community relations manager.

Bryant Again · Aug 08, 2008, 09:04 PM // 21:04

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Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm

Better is all about perceptions, inherently subjective and not provable either way.

I can prove to you one thing: removing inherent meaning from the game does not make it "better". Nor is making it more "fun". The challenge is having it be more fun while keeping in mind the basic fundamentals of the game.

Making a new profession that plays just like a shooter and doesn't rely on any skills or builds would be pretty fun to a lot of people, but it's not maintained in the spirit of the game.

truemyths · Aug 08, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

It synergizes with itself, the more who bring it the more likely a "headshot" becomes. If all 8 members of the team bring it you do 8*90= 720 damage (before armor) with a 66% chance of doing at least 900 points more damage.
With QZ the spike recycles in 7 seconds.

How do you get the 66% chance? I would guess 10% chance x 8 = 80% for the group.

R.Shayne · Aug 08, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Making a new profession that plays just like a shooter and doesn't rely on any skills or builds would be pretty fun to a lot of people, but it's not maintained in the spirit of the game.

I still don't understand why the GW:EN PvE skills were not tied to professions like the sunspear skills. As it is now players can have 4 secondary professions due to the 3 pve skills.

Scythe O F Glory · Aug 08, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32

So whats the new build for today? (friday)

Nightow · Aug 08, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by Scythe O F Glory

So whats the new build for today? (friday)

Heard it fixed a bug with [Xinrae's Weapon] which made the game crash. Not sure if anything else was included.

Scythe O F Glory · Aug 08, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40

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Originally Posted by Nightow

Heard it fixed a bug with [Xinrae's Weapon] which made the game crash. Not sure if anything else was included.

DarkNecrid said that at 2:51, i got the update at like 5 something. I think he was referring to last nights update.

Shikaru · Aug 08, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by truemyths

How do you get the 66% chance? I would guess 10% chance x 8 = 80% for the group.

Thats not the correct way to calculate percentages.

If you wanted to calculate the chances of at least one person in an 8 man party would trigger the 900 bonus damage, you calculate

1-(chance of no one getting the bonus damage)

This would equate to 1-(.9^8)
(90% chance that each person would fail to get the bonus damage raised to the 8th power to calculate for 8 independent trials)

This is roughly equal to 57%. This means that if 8 people in the party all used the skill, there would be a 57% chance that at least one of them will get the 900 bonus damage.

Vs char 1-(.75^8) = .899

against char there is a 90% chance that at least one of the 8 party members will hit with bonus damage.